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		By: Huguenot Jo		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-261&quot;&gt;Ann&lt;/a&gt;.

Especially in lockdown, when you can really get stuck in!]]></description>
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<p>Especially in lockdown, when you can really get stuck in!</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done Jo. Great review. Incisive as ever. I find your interest in the religious ideology prompts me to revisit the trilogy. I loved Wolf Hall but had to really devote serious time to reading it. Your review suggests the remaining books warrant that investment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Jo. Great review. Incisive as ever. I find your interest in the religious ideology prompts me to revisit the trilogy. I loved Wolf Hall but had to really devote serious time to reading it. Your review suggests the remaining books warrant that investment.</p>
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		By: Huguenot Jo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-259&quot;&gt;Hephzi&lt;/a&gt;.

Good old Elton.  I loved him.]]></description>
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<p>Good old Elton.  I loved him.</p>
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		By: Hephzi		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, Elton, I remember him, studying the Tudors for A level. But my school had taken us to Stratford upon Avon and I returned several times, becoming enamoured of the Plantagenets, so I read a book about them and knew far about Richard II to Henry V than I did about the Tudors.

Thank you for your review of The Mirror and The Light – which I haven’t read - but I’ve read about it, and heard a lot on the radio, and heard Anton Lesser’s elegant reading of the book.  The strange rendering “He, Cromwell” puzzled me, but you are quite right - “He, Cromwell, touches a finger to the metal” gives quite us a different, suspended present to inhabit, than a simpler “Cromwell touches a finger to the metal”. And it is interesting that “we see the world entirely through Cromwell’s eyes” although the book is written in the third person. I would need to read the book to appreciate that. 

Elton, and Mantel, and now (when we read his book) Diarmaid MacCulloch each reveal a new layer of Cromwell’s character, a fascinating process. You too, with your hope for a deeper understanding of the intensity of Cromwell’s “theological reality” hint at the need to really grasp the dangerous time in which he lived. 

Not having read any of Mantel’s books so far, your review gives me an introduction which, as with all your reviews, makes me want to go and engage with the works. Your reviews are short, but subtle. You can handle a cliché without it appearing to be one, as with Cromwell’s “omelette”. And your choice of the word “shrouded” in paragraph fourteen, followed by “bury”, is far more telling than the more prosaic ‘hidden” and “hide” would have been.

I also like the way you have photographed the book without its cover, as well as with. I like to enquire underneath the dust jacket to see what kind of book I have in my hands. The most delightful recently has been Philip Pullman’s Book of Dust, book one of the trilogy – the hard cover spangled like miniscule stars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Elton, I remember him, studying the Tudors for A level. But my school had taken us to Stratford upon Avon and I returned several times, becoming enamoured of the Plantagenets, so I read a book about them and knew far about Richard II to Henry V than I did about the Tudors.</p>
<p>Thank you for your review of The Mirror and The Light – which I haven’t read &#8211; but I’ve read about it, and heard a lot on the radio, and heard Anton Lesser’s elegant reading of the book.  The strange rendering “He, Cromwell” puzzled me, but you are quite right &#8211; “He, Cromwell, touches a finger to the metal” gives quite us a different, suspended present to inhabit, than a simpler “Cromwell touches a finger to the metal”. And it is interesting that “we see the world entirely through Cromwell’s eyes” although the book is written in the third person. I would need to read the book to appreciate that. </p>
<p>Elton, and Mantel, and now (when we read his book) Diarmaid MacCulloch each reveal a new layer of Cromwell’s character, a fascinating process. You too, with your hope for a deeper understanding of the intensity of Cromwell’s “theological reality” hint at the need to really grasp the dangerous time in which he lived. </p>
<p>Not having read any of Mantel’s books so far, your review gives me an introduction which, as with all your reviews, makes me want to go and engage with the works. Your reviews are short, but subtle. You can handle a cliché without it appearing to be one, as with Cromwell’s “omelette”. And your choice of the word “shrouded” in paragraph fourteen, followed by “bury”, is far more telling than the more prosaic ‘hidden” and “hide” would have been.</p>
<p>I also like the way you have photographed the book without its cover, as well as with. I like to enquire underneath the dust jacket to see what kind of book I have in my hands. The most delightful recently has been Philip Pullman’s Book of Dust, book one of the trilogy – the hard cover spangled like miniscule stars.</p>
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		By: Huguenot Jo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-256&quot;&gt;Monique&lt;/a&gt;.

On the question of the rise of nations, it&#039;s not generally known that, at the time, the Pope restricted international trade by controlling what nation-states could do.  Cromwell will have witnessed first-hand the frustration this caused merchants, who wanted free trade.  By ridding England of Papal Supremacy, the path to free trade was cleared; although that path was not without obstacles in the first instance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-256">Monique</a>.</p>
<p>On the question of the rise of nations, it&#8217;s not generally known that, at the time, the Pope restricted international trade by controlling what nation-states could do.  Cromwell will have witnessed first-hand the frustration this caused merchants, who wanted free trade.  By ridding England of Papal Supremacy, the path to free trade was cleared; although that path was not without obstacles in the first instance.</p>
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		By: Huguenot Jo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-256&quot;&gt;Monique&lt;/a&gt;.

You make some very salient points!  My downfall is to be more than a little sweeping. However, when you read the third volume, you will see what I mean: Mantel is making Cromwell&#039;s role in history clear.  There is a lot more in this book about the power of the aristocracy being pitted against Cromwell&#039;s own family and proteges, and about his belief that he could indeed rise to the very top.  Likewise, there is a great deal about the shape-shifting of fathers and sons.]]></description>
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<p>You make some very salient points!  My downfall is to be more than a little sweeping. However, when you read the third volume, you will see what I mean: Mantel is making Cromwell&#8217;s role in history clear.  There is a lot more in this book about the power of the aristocracy being pitted against Cromwell&#8217;s own family and proteges, and about his belief that he could indeed rise to the very top.  Likewise, there is a great deal about the shape-shifting of fathers and sons.</p>
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		By: Monique		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a very readable and interesting review. Well done for getting through the book, for a start! As usual, your review is written with real panache. It zips along and the points a are made with a punch! I liked the way you look at how Mantel writes, use of tense and also the third person which has been a subject of controversy. I do know some people who were driven mad by this device of calling Cromwell &#039;he&#039;. I haven&#039;t read Part 3 yet but will be interested to see if &#039;her, Cromwell&#039; makes any difference! I enjoyed the quotation you chose and it reminded me of just how vivid and exciting I found the writing in the first two books, how poetic and bold she is in the presentation of character and place. Your review did raise questions for me but this is not necessarily a criticism of the review as much as it making me want to reread the first two books and then read he third but I might never have time for this! For example, you write of him having a part in replacing the aristocracy with the meritocracy? Did this really happen at the time? Is it a bit of an overstatement of the case? And is your statement about him having a timely hand in the rise of nations a little sweeping? Also, did TC really believe he could rise to the top? It seems such a modern notion. His desire to influence the path of religion seems more credible for a man of his time. Your comment about the relationship between TC and HVIII interested me too: is it not true that Mantel portrays TC as being the father to the King as much as vice versa? anyway, it is a good review and these are just some of my thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very readable and interesting review. Well done for getting through the book, for a start! As usual, your review is written with real panache. It zips along and the points a are made with a punch! I liked the way you look at how Mantel writes, use of tense and also the third person which has been a subject of controversy. I do know some people who were driven mad by this device of calling Cromwell &#8216;he&#8217;. I haven&#8217;t read Part 3 yet but will be interested to see if &#8216;her, Cromwell&#8217; makes any difference! I enjoyed the quotation you chose and it reminded me of just how vivid and exciting I found the writing in the first two books, how poetic and bold she is in the presentation of character and place. Your review did raise questions for me but this is not necessarily a criticism of the review as much as it making me want to reread the first two books and then read he third but I might never have time for this! For example, you write of him having a part in replacing the aristocracy with the meritocracy? Did this really happen at the time? Is it a bit of an overstatement of the case? And is your statement about him having a timely hand in the rise of nations a little sweeping? Also, did TC really believe he could rise to the top? It seems such a modern notion. His desire to influence the path of religion seems more credible for a man of his time. Your comment about the relationship between TC and HVIII interested me too: is it not true that Mantel portrays TC as being the father to the King as much as vice versa? anyway, it is a good review and these are just some of my thoughts.</p>
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		By: Huguenot Jo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-250&quot;&gt;Carrie Dunne&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the review - thank you for your response!]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the review &#8211; thank you for your response!</p>
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		By: Huguenot Jo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-251&quot;&gt;Jon Cook&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps Tony Blair is a modern-day equivalent, not in terms of his religious belief, but in terms of believing that there are massive threats to world peace, and that the accumulation of vast personal wealth by campaigning about them is absolutely fine.  Greta Thunberg has achieved international celebrity by campaigning about a huge threat to human existence, but so far seems reluctant to capitalise on it personally.]]></description>
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<p>Perhaps Tony Blair is a modern-day equivalent, not in terms of his religious belief, but in terms of believing that there are massive threats to world peace, and that the accumulation of vast personal wealth by campaigning about them is absolutely fine.  Greta Thunberg has achieved international celebrity by campaigning about a huge threat to human existence, but so far seems reluctant to capitalise on it personally.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://huguenotjo.co.uk/book-review/in-the-secret-places-of-the-heart-the-mirror-and-the-light/#comment-252&quot;&gt;John Freeman&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, her depiction of Thomas More has been very controversial.  Has he been wrongly lionised, though?  Thomas More represented the forces of reaction, whereas Cromwell pushed Britain towards the forefront of mercantile progress, free from the control of the Pope - quite apart from other aspects of progress, such as parliamentary democracy.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, her depiction of Thomas More has been very controversial.  Has he been wrongly lionised, though?  Thomas More represented the forces of reaction, whereas Cromwell pushed Britain towards the forefront of mercantile progress, free from the control of the Pope &#8211; quite apart from other aspects of progress, such as parliamentary democracy.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[A stimulating and engaging review of Mantel&#039;s latest. You  succeeded in making me  re-examine my prejudices against Mantel as writer,  particularly in the three volume chronicle. I managed hitherto only to make headway with the first volume. I may now try again; but part of the basis of my objections is Mantel&#039;s prejudiced treatment of Sir Thomas More, a far greater man in so many ways than Cromwell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A stimulating and engaging review of Mantel&#8217;s latest. You  succeeded in making me  re-examine my prejudices against Mantel as writer,  particularly in the three volume chronicle. I managed hitherto only to make headway with the first volume. I may now try again; but part of the basis of my objections is Mantel&#8217;s prejudiced treatment of Sir Thomas More, a far greater man in so many ways than Cromwell.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought this was a witty and incisive review of the final book in Mantell&#039;s Cromwell trilogy. The question you raise towards the end about our capacity to understand the power of religious belief as a motive for action strikes me as very important. Can we imaginatively enter the mind of someone whose social ambitions are so closely entwined with a serious belief in damnation?

Thanks, Jo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a witty and incisive review of the final book in Mantell&#8217;s Cromwell trilogy. The question you raise towards the end about our capacity to understand the power of religious belief as a motive for action strikes me as very important. Can we imaginatively enter the mind of someone whose social ambitions are so closely entwined with a serious belief in damnation?</p>
<p>Thanks, Jo.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Such a good review of Mantel&#039;s final part of the Cromwell trilogy. Thank you, Jo.]]></description>
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